Mr. Specter. Now, in your prior testimony you described a flurry of shells into the car. How many shots did you hear after the first noise which you described as sounding like a firecracker?

Mr. Kellerman. Mr. Specter, these shells came in all together.

Mr. Specter. Are you able to say how many you heard?

Mr. Kellerman. I am going to say two, and it was like a double bang—bang, bang.

Mr. Specter. You mean now two shots in addition to the first noise?

Mr. Kellerman. Yes, sir; yes, sir; at least.

Mr. Specter. What is your best estimate of the time, in seconds, from the first noise sounding like a firecracker until the second noise which you heard?

Mr. Kellerman. This was instantaneous.

Mr. Specter. No; let me repeat the question so I am sure you understand it. From the time you first heard the noise coming to your right rear, which you described as sounding like a firecracker, until you heard the flurry of shots?

Mr. Kellerman. This is about how long it took, sir. As I am viewing, trying to determine this noise, I turned to my right and I heard the voice and I came back and I verify it and speak to the driver, grab the mike, these shots come in.