Mr. Specter. Well, you have described it as 3 to 4 seconds from the time——

Mr. Kellerman. No more.

Mr. Specter. From the time of the first noise—wait a minute—until you gave the instruction to Mr. Greer and then as you made the statement to Special Agent Lawson over the microphone that was an instantaneous timespan as you have described it.

Mr. Kellerman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter. How soon thereafter did the flurry of shots come?

Mr. Kellerman. They came in, Mr. Specter, while I am delivering that radio message.

Mr. Specter. To Mr. Lawson. All right. Was there any timespan which you could discern between the first and second shots and what you have described as the flurry?

Mr. Kellerman. I will estimate 5 seconds, if that.

Representative Ford. But this flurry took place while you were occupied with these other activities; is that correct?

Mr. Kellerman. That is right, sir.