Mr. Specter. Was there any further difficulty of any sort——

Mr. Kellerman. No.

Mr. Specter. Imposed by any Texas officials on the removal of the body?

Mr. Kellerman. No, sir. Whatever happened to the hearse, I don't know. I never left the plane.

Mr. Specter. Did you observe——

Mr. Kellerman. We left the hospital; we have a time on that; it is 4 minutes after 2. It is about a 10-minute ride to the airplane.

Mr. Specter. On the question of timing, pinning down these times as best we can, how long did it take you to get from the shooting incident to the time you arrived at Parkland, based on your best estimates?

Mr. Kellerman. Mr. Specter, it seemed like hours, but we flew there, I honestly don't know. I can't really tell you.

Mr. Specter. What is the best estimate of the speed of your vehicle en route from the shooting to the hospital?

Mr. Kellerman. I don't know.