Senator Cooper. Let the record show that Congressman Ford has to go to his official duties in the House and that I, Senator Cooper, am now acting as Chairman.
(At this point, Representative Ford left the hearing room.)
Senator Cooper. Go ahead.
Mr. Specter. Moving ahead, then, on to the sequences of time as best you can recollect them, Mr. Kellerman, at what time was it ascertained that the President had died and what was the basis of the pronouncement of death.
Mr. Kellerman. That was on the death certificate, sir.
Mr. Specter. Did you learn at or about 1 o'clock, while you were at Parkland Hospital, that he had died?
Mr. Kellerman. I would think so. However, at that time let me say that I wasn't watching any clock too closely and this time was given to me by Dr. Burkley.
Mr. Specter. Then you have no independent recollection of time at Parkland when the death was announced or pronounced?
Mr. Kellerman. No.
Mr. Specter. Now, then, you have specified the time of departure from Parkland Hospital and en route back to Love Field at what, sir?