Mr. Kellerman. We departed at 4 minutes after 2 from Parkland.

Mr. Specter. What time did you arrive at the President's plane?

Mr. Kellerman. 2:14.

Mr. Specter. What were your next activities?

Mr. Kellerman. Our next time, we had waited until Judge Sarah Hughes had arrived for the swearing-in ceremonies.

Mr. Specter. What time did the swearing-in ceremonies occur?

Mr. Kellerman. 2:37 p.m.

Mr. Specter. And what time did the plane depart from Dallas?

Mr. Kellerman. We left at 2:48.

Mr. Specter. Were you present during the swearing-in ceremonies?