Mr. Redlich. You called Mrs. Paine back?
Mr. Martin. A day or two later, yes.
Mr. Redlich. What did you say to her?
Mr. Martin. I told her that under the present circumstances she just didn't want to see anybody, and also the security on her didn't permit her to go out too far. That we could possibly arrange a meeting at some middle point later on.
Mr. Redlich. Was Marina free to see anyone she wanted to see?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. And the reason she didn't see Mrs. Paine was because she didn't want to see Mrs. Paine?
Mr. Martin. Yes. I asked her several times to call her, at least call Mrs. Paine and tell her she didn't want to see her, and she just shrugged her shoulders and said she didn't want to talk to her.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina ever tell you why she didn't want to talk to her?
Mr. Martin. She said something about Mrs. Paine talking too much, and she didn't like Mrs. Paine's children.