Mr. Redlich. Were you aware at the time that Marina had lived with Mrs. Paine?

Mr. Martin. Yes.

Mr. Redlich. Were you aware at the time that Mrs. Paine had taken the Oswald family to New Orleans and had——

Mr. Martin. Yes.

Mr. Redlich. Gone to New Orleans and brought them back to Irving, Tex.?

Mr. Martin. Yes, that is why I felt she owed Mrs. Paine something.

Mr. Redlich. What was Marina's attitude toward your comments?

Mr. Martin. She just didn't want to talk to her.

Mr. Redlich. Did you yourself ever meet Mrs. Paine?

Mr. Martin. Yes.