Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir; we did.

Mr. Ball. Is this the first time that he had ever walked ahead of you?

Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir; he did.

Mr. Ball. You say he had the package under his arm when you saw him?

Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. You mean one end of it under the armpit?

Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir; he had it up just like you stick it right under your arm like that.

Mr. Ball. And he had the lower part——

Mr. Frazier. The other part with his right hand.

Mr. Ball. Right hand?