Mr. Frazier. Right.
Mr. Ball. He carried it then parallel to his body?
Mr. Frazier. Right, straight up and down.
Representative Ford. Under his right arm?
Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Did it look to you as if there was something heavy in the package?
Mr. Frazier. Well, I will be frank with you, I didn't pay much attention to the package because like I say before and after he told me that it was curtain rods and I didn't pay any attention to it, and he never had lied to me before so I never did have any reason to doubt his word.
Mr. Ball. Did it appear to you there was some, more than just paper he was carrying, some kind of a weight he was carrying?
Mr. Frazier. Well, yes, sir; I say, because one reason I know that because I worked in a department store before and I had uncrated curtain rods when they come in, and I know if you have seen when they come straight from the factory you know how they can bundle them up and put them in there pretty compact, so he told me it was curtain rods so I didn't think any more about the package whatsoever.
Mr. Ball. Well, from the way he carried it, the way he walked, did it appear he was carrying something that had more than the weight of a paper?