Mr. Ball. Which ones?
Mr. Mooney. This one and this one.
Mr. Ball. Now, two cartridges were close together, is that right?
Mr. Mooney. The one cartridge here, by the wall facing, is right. And this one and this one, they were further away from this one.
Mr. Ball. Well——
Mr. Mooney. But as to being positive of the exact distance——
Mr. Ball. You think that the cartridges are in the same position as when you saw them in this picture 510?
Mr. Mooney. As far as my knowledge, they are; pretty close to right.
Mr. Ball. Well, we will label these cartridges, the empty shells as "A", "B", and "C."
Now, I didn't quite understand—did you say it was your memory that "A" and "B" were not that close together?