Mr. Ball. Did you go over there?

Mr. Mooney. I stepped over there.

Mr. Ball. What did you see?

Mr. Mooney. I had to look twice before I actually saw the gun laying in there. I had to get around to the right angle before I could see it. And there the gun lay, stuck between these cartons in an upright position. The scope was up.

Mr. Ball. Well, now, I will show you a picture, 514.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 514, for identification.)

Senator Cooper. May I ask—did you change the position of the shells which you have identified?

Mr. Mooney. No, sir; I didn't have my hands on them.

Senator Cooper. Or the bag, or chicken leg?

Mr. Mooney. No, sir.