Senator Cooper. Until—before the chief came?

Mr. Mooney. Captain Will Fritz; yes, sir; he is the chief.

Senator Cooper. Was there any odor in the area when you first got there?

Mr. Mooney. I didn't particularly notice any. Now, there could have been a slight powder odor there.

(At this point, Mr. Warren entered the hearing room.)

Senator Cooper. Did you smell any powder?

Mr. Mooney. No, sir; not to my knowledge. Of course it was musty odor, with all those cartons and books there.

Mr. Ball. Do you see the picture which is 514? Does it look like anything like that?

Mr. Mooney. Yes, sir; with the exception there was more cartons around it than that. In other words, the way it looked to me, when I walked over there—of course these may have been disturbed at a later date.

Mr. Ball. It looks like there are more cartons?