Mr. Mooney. No; there is less cartons around it right now. Of course that is looking straight down. Now, there are some more boxes here.
Mr. Ball. I show you a picture which we will mark as 515.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 515 for identification.)
Mr. Mooney. But that is in the position the gun was laying.
Mr. Ball. That is about the position of the gun?
Mr. Mooney. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Now, here is a picture of that marked stairway. Can you orient yourself from that picture?
Mr. Mooney. Let's see. Here is the staircase right in here. If I remember right, the gun was either in this crack or this one here. I don't remember which.
Mr. Ball. Does that show you about the number of cartons around?
Mr. Mooney. Yes, sir; that is the way it looked; sure did. Because I had to stand up back here, before I could see over off in there.