Mr. Eisenberg. What about the widths of the lands and grooves? Did you measure those?

Mr. Cunningham. Yes; they were also the same. In other words, when I say it has similar rifling characteristics—the widths of the lands and the grooves is taken into account the rifling characteristics. It has the same width and number of lands and grooves and a right twist.

Mr. Eisenberg. Now, how many other—well, before I ask that, you have also established that the bullets were .38 Specials?

Mr. Cunningham. That is correct.

Mr. Eisenberg. And the manufacturer of each bullet?

Mr. Cunningham. That is correct.

Mr. Eisenberg. Would you say they had been fired therefore from a gun chambered for a .38 Special?

Mr. Cunningham. Yes; there was no indication that they were fired in a weapon other than .38 caliber.

Mr. Eisenberg. So that the weapon was a .38 Special weapon with five lands, five grooves, right twist, and with the same dimensions for each land and each groove.

Mr. Cunningham. Yes, sir.