Mr. Ball. Who was driving the east side elevator?
Mr. Williams. I think that was Charles Givens.
Mr. Ball. Now, did something happen on the way down—did somebody yell out?
Mr. Williams. Yes; on the way down I heard Oswald—and I am not sure whether he was on the fifth or the sixth floor. But on the way down Oswald hollered "Guys, how about an elevator?" I don't know whether those are his exact words. But he said something about the elevator.
And Charles said, "Come on, boy," just like that.
And he said, "Close the gate on the elevator and send the elevator back up."
I don't know what happened after that.
Representative Ford. Had the elevator gone down below the floor from which he yelled?
Mr. Williams. Yes; I believe it was. I assume it was the fifth or the sixth.
The reason I could not tell whether it was the sixth or the fifth is because I was on the opposite elevator, and if you are not thinking about it it is kind of hard to judge which floor, if you started moving.