Representative Ford. The elevator did not go back up to the floor from which he yelled?
Mr. Williams. No, sir.
Mr. Dulles. Did he ask the gate be closed on the elevator?
Mr. Williams. I think he asked Charles Givens—I think he said, "Close the gate on the elevator, or send one of the elevators back up."
I think that is what he said.
Mr. McCloy. That is in order that he would have an elevator to come down when he wanted to come down?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. On the 23d of November 1963, you talked to two FBI agents according to the record I have here, Bardwell Odum and Will Griffin, and they reported that you said that as they were going down, that you saw Lee on the fifth floor.
Mr. Williams. I told him the fifth or the sixth. I told him I wasn't sure about it.
Mr. Ball. And were you sure at that time?