Mr. Ball. Now, where was that crack with reference to the wall of the fifth floor?

Mr. Williams. With reference to the wall of the fifth floor, the crack that I was speaking about was directly over my head, and also directly over Norman's head.

Mr. Ball. And that would be where the floor would ordinarily make a joint with the wall?

Mr. Williams. With the wall.

Mr. Ball. You say you ran down to the west window.

Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. From where you were?

Mr. Williams. Yes, sir. First of all——

Mr. Ball. I will take this same diagram——

Mr. Williams. First of all we made a stop before we got to the last stop that we was when the policeman came up.