Mr. Ball. But you could not hear this?
Mr. Williams. No; I could not hear it.
Mr. Ball. That was an old floor, wasn't it?
Mr. Williams. Yes; it was.
Mr. Ball. Could you see light through the floor from the fifth to the sixth floor as you would look above your window?
Mr. Williams. Well, at the time, that day of November 22d, I did not notice that. But the other day when you were questioning me, even after the thick new floor that was put over the old floor on the sixth floor, well, you still could see light. And the new floor extended a little beyond the old floor. So therefore I would say that you could see light much more when the old floor was there.
Mr. Ball. When you were there the other day, you looked up through a crack in the ceiling of the fifth floor?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Could you see the new floor?
Mr. Williams. You could. You could see daylight through.