Mr. Ball. This window which you have shown as Y, in 487, the diagram of the fifth floor.

Mr. Williams. That's right.

Mr. Ball. Here is 488.

(The document so described was marked Commission Exhibit No. 488 for identification.)

Mr. Ball. Is that the window?

Mr. Williams. Yes; it is.

Mr. Ball. And is that about the way you were standing as you looked out to the west?

Mr. Williams. That is about the way we were standing.

Mr. Ball. Did you run fast towards the west?

Mr. Williams. We did. We moved rather fast. We was at a trotting pace.