Mr. Dulles. You were all alone as far as you knew at that time on the sixth floor?

Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles. During that period of from 12 o'clock about to—10 or 15 minutes after?

Mr. Williams. Yes, sir. I felt like I was all alone. That is one of the reasons I left—because it was so quiet.

Mr. McCloy. When you saw Oswald that morning, was he carrying any package? Did you see any bundle or package with him?

Mr. Williams. No, sir; I didn't see anything other than the clipboard with the orders on it that he was filling, as I remember.

Mr. McCloy. How many shots did you hear fired?

Mr. Williams. I heard three shots. But at first I told the FBI I only heard two—they took me down—because I was excited, and I couldn't remember too well. But later on, as everything began to die down, I got my memory even a little better than on the 22d, I remembered three shots, because there was a pause between the first two shots. There was two real quick. There was three shots.

Mr. Ball. Did you hear anything upstairs at all?

Mr. Williams. No, sir; I didn't hear anything.