Mr. Ball. Any footsteps?
Mr. Williams. No, sir. Probably the reason we didn't hear anything is because, you know, after the shots we were running, too, and that was making a louder noise.
Mr. Ball. You really ran?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir; we ran. And that was probably making a lot of noise.
Mr. Ball. Now, I'm going to hold this up. I don't know whether everybody can see it or not——
Mr. Dulles. Could I ask one question in connection with your last question?
Did you hear either of the elevators going up or down while you were eating your meal?
Mr. Williams. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Dulles. You didn't hear the elevators at all?
Mr. Williams. No, sir.