Mr. Dulles. If an elevator had come to that floor, would you have heard it then?
Mr. Williams. That all depends——
Mr. Dulles. Were they noisy elevators? The operation of the doors and so forth?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir. The elevator that I came up on to the sixth floor, if you would listen—say you were listening for the boss, you could hear, because you would be paying attention. The elevator is worked by hand pedal. When you release the hand pedal it makes a noise. It bangs—or maybe you can hear the old elevator when it is first coming up. But at that time I did not hear anything.
(At this point, Representative Ford left the hearing room.)
Mr. Ball. I would like to point out over in the northwest corner there is a stairwell. And the elevators are shown here. And the witness has placed himself at point "Z" on Exhibit 487, which is near a pair of west windows.
Now, you are oriented there, are you not?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. All right. When you were at "Z" were you able to see the stairwell?
Mr. Williams. No, sir.