Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Now, on this picture here, on 487, that would be what location?
Mr. Williams. On this picture here, that would be about right in here.
Mr. Ball. Near the "up", is that right?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. I would like to have the Commissioners note that—that the man was standing near the "up" part of the stairwell.
We took your pictures three in a row, is that right?
Mr. Williams. That is right.
Mr. Ball. And then do you recall the picture was taken?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir; I recall this picture. This picture was taken from the position we were standing, and it gave the view of—the only thing you would be able to see from this point. And this picture here was James Jarman, which we were standing shoulder to shoulder.