Mr. Ball. Also were the cartons piled at that time so that—as they were here—on the day, November 22d, were the cartons piled somewhat like they are here?
Mr. Williams. They were piled somewhat like here, because they have been rearranged since that time.
Mr. Ball. Now, in both pictures, 492 and 490, you see two windows, do you not?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. And those windows are shown on the diagram of the fifth floor, 487, as where?
Mr. Williams. Right here.
Mr. Ball. The windows next to the west elevator?
Mr. Williams. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. And in this picture, are you able to see either elevator?
Mr. Williams. In this picture?