Mr. Ball. This picture—490 and 492—are you able to see either elevator?

Mr. Williams. No, sir; you cannot see exactly the elevator.

Mr. Ball. Now, in this picture, 491, where is the downstairs?

Mr. Williams. The downstairs come right in here.

Mr. Ball. Are you able to see the opening of the downstairs from this view, 492?

Mr. Williams. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. And the thing that obstructs your view is this shelving, is that right?

Mr. Williams. Yes, sir; that's right.

Mr. Dulles. How long has that shelving been there—for quite a long while? Or was it put there recently?

Mr. Williams. I think it was there from the time I started, as far as I can remember.