Mr. Williams. No, sir.

Mr. McCloy. Do you ever do any hunting?

Mr. Williams. No, sir; I never go hunting.

Mr. McCloy. But you have heard shots fired?

Mr. Williams. Yes, sir; I heard my grandfather try a gun out, something like that.

Mr. McCloy. You were not in the army?

Mr. Williams. No, sir; I have never been in the army.

Mr. McCloy. I think that is all I have.

Mr. Dulles. I have one question.

You have referred to three explosions that—one you thought was a backfire or a firecracker.