Mr. Ball. Where was James Jarman when you got together with him?
Mr. Norman. He was somewhere in the vicinity of the telephone, I believe. I am not for sure.
Mr. Ball. Out near the bins?
Mr. Norman. Yes.
Mr. Ball. What do you call James Jarman?
Mr. Norman. Junior.
Mr. Ball. And you and Junior did what?
Mr. Norman. We went outside.
Mr. Ball. You went out the front door, did you?
Mr. Norman. Yes.