Mr. Ball. That is the Elm Street?
Mr. Norman. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Where did you stand?
Mr. Norman. We stood on the Elm Street sidewalk.
Mr. Ball. On the sidewalk?
Mr. Norman. Yes. We didn't go any further than that point.
Mr. Ball. What time was it that you went out there?
Mr. Norman. Oh, I would say, I don't know exactly, around 12 or 12:10, something like that.
Mr. Ball. Who was standing with you when you were standing on the sidewalk, on the Elm Street sidewalk?
Mr. Norman. I remember it was Danny Arce.