Mr. Ball. And who else?

Mr. Norman. I remember seeing Mr. Truly and Mr. Campbell. They were standing somewhere behind us, not exactly behind us but they were back of us.

Mr. Ball. Anybody else?

Mr. Norman. Well, I believe Billy Lovelady, I think. He was sitting on the steps there.

Mr. Ball. He was?

Mr. Norman. Yes. That is about all the employees I remember seeing out there. There were more people out there.

Mr. Ball. Did you stay there?

Mr. Norman. Well, we stayed there I believe until we got the news that the motorcade was coming down, let's see, is that Commerce, no Main, because Commerce—we went back in the building, James Jarman and I.

Mr. Ball. Where did you go when you went in the building?

Mr. Norman. We got the east elevator. No; the west.