Mr. McCloy. Saluting?
Mr. Norman. Yes.
Mr. Ball. With which arm?
Mr. Norman. I believe it was his right arm, and I can't remember what the exact time was but I know I heard a shot, and then after I heard the shot, well, it seems as though the President, you know, slumped or something, and then another shot and I believe Jarman or someone told me, he said, "I believe someone is shooting at the President," and I think I made a statement "It is someone shooting at the President, and I believe it came from up above us."
Well, I couldn't see at all during the time but I know I heard a third shot fired, and I could also hear something sounded like the shell hulls hitting the floor and the ejecting of the rifle, it sounded as though it was to me.
Mr. Ball. How many shots did you hear?
Mr. Norman. Three.
Mr. Ball. Do you remember whether or not you said anything to the men then as to whether or not you heard anything from above you?
Mr. Norman. Only I think I remember saying that I thought I could hear the shell hulls and the ejection of the rifle. I didn't tell I think I hear anybody moving, you know.
Mr. Ball. But you thought, do you remember you told the men then that you thought you heard the ejection of the rifle?