Mr. Norman. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. And shells on the floor?
Mr. Norman. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Falling?
Mr. Norman. Yes.
Mr. Ball. Did anybody say anything as to where they thought the shots came from?
Mr. Norman. Well, I don't recall of either one of them saying they thought where it came from.
Mr. Ball. But you did?
Mr. Norman. Yes.
Mr. Ball. And you said you thought it came from where?