Mr. Norman. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. The day that you were there on November 22, what was the condition of the ceiling and the floor of the sixth floor?
Mr. Norman. I would say that you could see daylight through there because during the times they put the plywood down you can see the plywood, some portion of the plywood, so I would say you could see a little daylight during that time.
Mr. Ball. When you were there Friday afternoon, did you look up at the ceiling from where you were sitting at the southeast window on the fifth floor?
Mr. Norman. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. What could you see on the ceiling?
Mr. Norman. There was one place I could see the plywood and then another place you could still see a little daylight, I mean peering through the crack.
Mr. Ball. What about the joint where the upper floor or the floor of the sixth and ceiling of the fifth floor comes against the wall. Could you see daylight through there?
Mr. Norman. Against the wall?
Mr. Ball. Yes.