Mr. Norman. Yes.

Mr. Ball. What did you hear on the fifth floor?

Mr. Norman. Well, I heard the same sound, the sound similar. I heard three something that he dropped on the floor and then I could hear the rifle or whatever he had up there.

Mr. Ball. You could hear the rifle, the sound of an ejection?

Mr. Norman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Did you hear the sound of the bolt going back and forth?

Mr. Norman. Yes, sir; I sure did.

Mr. Ball. You could hear it clearly, could you?

Mr. Norman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Now there has been a new floor put in on the sixth floor, hasn't there?