Mr. Jarman. Right.

Mr. Ball. Where did you go?

Mr. Jarman. To the fifth floor.

Mr. Ball. Why did you go to the fifth floor?

Mr. Jarman. We just decided to go to the fifth floor.

Mr. Ball. Was there any reason why you should go to the fifth floor any more than the fourth or the sixth?

Mr. Jarman. No.

Mr. Ball. Did you know who made the suggestion you go to the fifth floor?

Mr. Jarman. Well, I don't know if it was myself or Hank.

Mr. Ball. When you got there was there anybody on the fifth floor?