Mr. Jarman. No, sir.
Mr. Ball. What did you do when you got to the fifth floor?
Mr. Jarman. We got out the elevator and pulled the gate down. That was in case somebody wanted to use it. Then we went to the front of the building, which is on the south side, and raised the windows.
Mr. Ball. Which windows did you raise?
Mr. Jarman. Well, Harold raised the first window to the east side of the building, and I went to the second rear windows and raised, counting the windows, it would be the fourth one.
Mr. Ball. It would be the fourth window?
Mr. Jarman. Yes.
Mr. Ball. Did somebody join you then?
Mr. Jarman. Yes, sir; a few minutes later.
Mr. Ball. Who joined you?