Mr. Ball. Before you talked to him the second time you had talked to Potts on the telephone, had you not?

Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir; I had.

Mr. Ball. He told you what he had done?

Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir. I should have remembered that when I talked to you this morning.

Mr. Ball. Wasn't there some conversation also about what his political beliefs were?

Mr. Fritz. I believe that is later. I asked him about his political beliefs and he said that he believed in fair play for Cuba. He said he was a member of the Fair Play for Cuba organization. They had headquarters in New York, had an office in New Orleans.

At one time he had been secretary for this organization down there. I asked him if he belonged to any other organizations of any kind, and he said he belonged to the American Civil Liberties Union, and I asked him what dues he paid. He said, "$5 per month." I believe he said, or for a year. I am not positive about that. I would have to look at my notes.

Mr. Ball. Was that at the first or second questioning?

Mr. Fritz. I think it was the second or third; that was later.

Mr. Ball. Later on?