Mr. Ball. How about the television cameras?
Mr. Fritz. I noticed—television cameras, they were downstairs too.
Mr. Ball. They weren't up on the third floor?
Mr. Fritz. I don't believe—there could have been one or two of them left up there, I don't think many of them were still up there.
Mr. Ball. Most of them were downstairs?
Mr. Fritz. Most of them were downstairs. I wouldn't say there weren't any up there because I don't think there was any time when there wasn't at least a few of them up there.
Mr. Ball. Now, when you went down the jail elevator and you said you got out and went forward to see if everything was secure. What did you mean by that?
Mr. Fritz. Well, I meant if everything, it was all right for us to go to our car with him. We didn't want to leave the jail office with him unless everything was all right because as long as we were in the jail office we could put him back in the elevator and if everything wasn't all right, I didn't want to come out with him.
Mr. Ball. And you went ahead, didn't you?
Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir; first Lieutenant Swain and then I went out and then the other officers followed me with the prisoner.