Mr. Ball. Was the car there you were going to get in?
Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Had you reached the car yet?
Mr. Fritz. I was just in the act of reaching for the door to open the back door, I looked at that picture, and it doesn't show the exact distance I was from the car but I couldn't have been any further than reaching distance.
Mr. Ball. When you left, or after Ruby shot Oswald, he was taken upstairs, wasn't he?
Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir; he was. He was first carried into the jail office, you mean Ruby?
Mr. Ball. Ruby, when Ruby shot Oswald?
Mr. Fritz. Oswald was carried into the jail office and put on the floor there. Ruby was brought into the jail office. Now I believe that Ruby was brought into the jail office after Oswald, I believe Oswald was already on the floor or behind there because I know the officers had taken Ruby upstairs went behind me and I saw them pass behind me with him to the jail.
Mr. Ball. Did you talk to Ruby?
Mr. Fritz. Did I talk to him; no, sir; I talked to him later.