Mr. McCloy. I wonder if at this time you would want a little recess?
Mr. Fritz. No, sir; I am comfortable.
Mr. McCloy. I think we kept the chief on a little bit too long this morning.
Mr. Fritz. If it is all right with you.
Mr. Ball. Did you talk to Ruby at that time?
Mr. Fritz. No, sir; not at that time.
Mr. Ball. Later?
Mr. Fritz. I talked to him later, probably an hour later. I guess I have the exact time here if you need it.
Mr. Ball. What did Ruby say to you, do you have the exact time?
Mr. Fritz. Well, he told me, I told him, I, of course, wanted to know something about premeditation because I was thinking about the trial too and I told him I wanted to ask him some questions and he said, well, he first said, "I don't want to talk to you, I want to talk to my lawyers," and he said, I believe he told me too that he had been advised by a lawyer, and I asked him some other question and he said, "Now if you will level with me and you won't make me look like a fool in front of my lawyers I will talk to you."