Representative Ford. But as far as any organization of any kind being responsible for this ad, it was not true. There was no organization that backed this ad? There were four or five of you that really promoted it and finally raised the money for it and put it in the newspaper?
Mr. Weissman. That is not quite accurate. You might say when you get right down to it, in the final tale, the John Birch Society printed that ad, not CUSA.
Mr. Jenner. Tell us why, now. Please expand on that.
Mr. Weissman. Well, in order to get anywhere in Dallas, at least in the area of conservative politics that we were in, you had to, you might say, cotton to the John Birch Society, because they were a pretty strong group, and still are, down there. And——
Mr. Jenner. Who is the head of that now?
Mr. Weissman. The Birch Society?
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mr. Weissman. I never met the fellow. They had a paid coordinator. I don't recall his name offhand. But, anyway——
Mr. Jenner. Were you in his offices?
Mr. Weissman. No; Joe Grinnan, as a matter of fact, is the only man in the hierarchy of the Birch Society in Dallas that I met.