The Chairman. Or the freight elevator?
Mr. Brian. No, sir; that is the elevator going up——
The Chairman. Which one did you take?
Mr. Brian. We took the elevator inside the city hall basement.
The Chairman. I see.
Mr. Dulles. Is there only one elevator there?
Mr. Brian. No, sir; there are two side by side. Back on this side of the basement there are two elevators over here and one freight elevator right back on in here. But this is to the city hall this direction and this is the ramp coming in from Main Street and the ramp going up to Commerce Street. We drove in this ramp one way going in this way and one way going out.
Mr. Dulles. Where are the stairs?
Mr. Brian. In the basement?
Mr. Dulles. You don't know?