Mr. Brian. There are no stairs in the basement. I mean out here where the cars are parked. Right here is the ramp, there is a walkway going up but it is not a stairway and then it levels off and you go by through here, and the jail is right here, do you recall the jail being here, on the right by the doors as you go in.

Mr. Dulles. I only saw the jail on top side.

Mr. Brian. Well, the jail office is right there at the head of this ramp, the jail office where they book the prisoners through.

Mr. Dulles. I didn't go in there.

Mr. Brian. That is the door they brought Lee Oswald out of when he was shot, going into the jail office right there.

Mr. Rankin. There are no stairs from the basement to the third floor?

Mr. Brian. There are stairs inside of the basement but there are none out here, inside of the basement of city hall but none out here in the parking area.

Mr. Rankin. Where are the stairs from the place where the elevators are that you took. Are there any stairs?

Mr. Brian. I didn't take any stairs.

Mr. Rankin. No. You say you took elevators.