Mr. Brian. It is much less than a hundred feet.

Mr. Dulles. Fifty feet, something like that.

Mr. Brian. Probably 60, 70 feet.

Mr. Dulles. Yes, sir.

Mr. Brian. Something like that.

Mr. Dulles. Where is this, where does that stairway go?

Mr. Brian. Up to the first floor. Back in the hallway.

Mr. Dulles. And you are quite clear you didn't go up that stairway?

Mr. Brian. We didn't go up a stairway, no; not that stairway here.

Mr. Dulles. Or any other stairway?