Mr. Kelley. I am sorry, Commissioner. I don't know just when those photographs were taken. They were taken some time in the last 2 years.

Mr. Specter. As to Exhibits Nos. 873 and 874, do they accurately depict the condition of the President's car as of November 22, 1963?

Mr. Kelley. They do, sir.

Mr. Specter. Would you describe briefly what Exhibit No. 874 shows?

Mr. Kelley. Exhibit No. 874 is another photograph of the car taken from the rear, and it shows the relative positions of the jump seats in an open position as they relate to the back seat of the car.

Mr. Specter. So that the record may be clear, which Commission number has been given to the diagram of the President's car?

Mr. Kelley. The President's car is Exhibit No. 872.

Mr. Specter. And the followup car diagram is what?

Mr. Kelley. Exhibit No. 871.

Mr. McCloy. Do you know whether these photographs were taken before or after the assassination?