Mr. Kelley. Before the assassination.
Mr. Dulles. Did the car that you used for this test—did that car have the seat lifting capacity that I understand the President's car had?
Mr. Kelley. No; it did not, sir. I might say that there is in the Commission's records photographs of the President's car after the assassination, showing the condition of it after the assassination, at the garage.
Mr. Specter. On the President's car itself, what is the distance on the right edge of the right jump seat, that is to say from the right edge of the right jump seat to the door on the right side?
Mr. Kelley. There is 6 inches of clearance between the jump seat and the door.
Mr. Specter. And what is the relative position of the jump seat to the rear seat on the Presidential automobile?
Mr. Kelley. There is 8½ inches between the back of the jump seat and the front of the back seat of the President's car, the rear seat.
Mr. Specter. And what is the relative height of the jump seat and the rear seat?
Mr. Kelley. The jump seat is 3 inches lower than the back seat in its bottom position. That is, the back seat of the President's car had a mechanism which would raise it 10½ inches. But at the time of the assassination, the seat was in its lowest position.
Mr. Specter. And what is the differential between the jump seats and the rear seat on the Secret Service followup car?