Mr. Kelley. The jump seat of the Secret Service car is a little closer to the right door.
However, the seating arrangement is not exactly the same in these cars, in that there is a portion of a padding that comes around on the rear seat.
But relatively, when two persons are seated in this car, one in the rear seat and one in the jump seat, they are in the same alinement as they were in the President's car.
Mr. Dulles. Could I ask one question in response to your statement that the back seat was in its lowest position at the time of the assassination? How do you know that?
Mr. Kelley. That is a result of questioning of the people who took the car, the driver who took the car from the hospital to the plane. This was one of the drivers of the Presidential car. There was nobody who touched the car until it got back to the White House garage. It was in his custody all the time. And he did not move it.
When it was in the White House garage, it was at its lowest point.
Mr. Dulles. And there would be no opportunity to lower it from the time the President was shot?
Mr. Kelley. No, sir. The President, of course, operates that thing himself. But when it was examined, at the time it was examined, and it was in the custody of this man all the time, it had not been touched.
Mr. Specter. What was the height of President Kennedy?
Mr. Kelley. He was 72½ inches.