Mr. Ball. Where was it?

Mr. Shelley. It was two-thirds across the building toward the west because I didn't put plywood over there and he didn't get too far from where we were actually working.

Mr. Ball. After you heard these noises you said sounded like firecrackers this girl came up and said the President was shot?

Mr. Shelley. Yeah.

Mr. Ball. You were still standing there?

Mr. Shelley. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. There was still some time lapse from the time you heard the noise like a firecracker and she came up?

Mr. Shelley. Yes.

Mr. Ball. Then you went out across Elm?

Mr. Shelley. Yes, to the divider.