Mr. Ball. Between the two Elm Streets?
Mr. Shelley. Yes.
Mr. Ball. The one street dead ends and the other street that goes on down under the viaduct?
Mr. Shelley. Yes.
Mr. Ball. Did you run out to the point or walk out?
Mr. Shelley. I believe we trotted out there.
Mr. Ball. Did you stay very long?
Mr. Shelley. Oh, it wasn't very long.
Mr. Ball. How long?
Mr. Shelley. Maybe a minute or two.