Mr. Belin. How far did you get through school?
Mr. Givens. Twelfth grade.
Mr. Belin. Did you get through the 12th?
Mr. Givens. No, sir.
Mr. Belin. You got up to the 12th grade?
Mr. Givens. Yes.
Mr. Belin. Then what did you do?
Mr. Givens. Well, I went to work.
Mr. Belin. Doing what?
Mr. Givens. SMU.