Mr. Belin. Pardon?
Mr. Givens. SMU.
Mr. Belin. SMU?
Mr. Givens. Yes.
Mr. Belin. What did you do out there?
Mr. Givens. I worked in the kitchen.
Mr. Belin. How long did you stay there?
Mr. Givens. Oh, about 2 years.
Mr. Belin. Then what did you do?
Mr. Givens. I went in the service.